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Radio 4,29 Oct 2026,45 mins

How to reduce the benefits bill

World at One

Available for 26 days

John Healey told The Today Programme that 'there will be a reduction in the benefits bill'. So how and when should he tackle it? We speak to Chair of the Work and Pensions Committee Debbie Abrahams. Also: the head of the Environment Agency Alan Lovell tells us about the first joint water regulator report which has rated eight out of the nine water companies in England as "poor" or "requiring improvement" on their environmental performance. And should children be allowed in pubs by themselves? An Edinburgh pub company is proposing allowing unaccompanied kids in to buy meals and soft drinks.

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