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鈥淲e put the money where Europe's priorities are. Many people may think defence is about tanks. No, defence is also about energy security. It is about social cohesion and territorial cohesion. That's the European brand. So we need to act in all these areas in order to ensure peace, security, stability on our continent.鈥�

Peter Macjob speaks to Nadia Calvi帽o, President of the European Investment Bank, about Europe鈥檚 shifting priorities, and the growing urgency around defence and security.

With wars, energy shocks and tariffs reshaping the global economy, Europe is being forced to rethink its position in a changing world.

The EIB is the EU鈥檚 lending arm, mobilising billions of euros to finance infrastructure, energy and technology projects across Europe and the developing world. Calvi帽o, a former Spanish finance minister, took on the role in 2024 at a time of war in Ukraine, rising geopolitical tensions and growing strain on global trade.

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Presenter: Peter Macjob
Producers: Osman Iqbal and Lucy Sheppard
Editor: Justine Lang and Damon Rose

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(Image: Nadia Calvi帽o Credit: Krisztian Bocsi/Bloomberg via Getty Images)