Kate and Holly: Covid hits after two years of shielding
'Everything we've worried about has suddenly happened'
Our reality podcast. Kate has Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, is a mum of two, wife to an immunocompromised Holly, and is awaiting a hysterectomy. A complex situation where Covid restrictions have brought more obstacles than anyone could have imagined.
After months of anxiety and years of pain, Kate is given a date for the surgery - but unfortunately it doesn't go smoothly.
Emotions take over as plans are thwarted. Expect tears as Kate records the most intimate and challenging moments - as they happen.
If you have any advice or wish to share your experiences with Kate, please email producer Amy Elizabeth at amy.elizabeth@bbc.co.uk
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The Isolation Diaries04 February 2022bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast
Presented by Kate Monaghan
Emma-Hello, this is Emma Tracey from 91福利社 Ouch. And over the last few years we鈥檝e been bringing you Mentally Interesting with Seaneen Molloy and Mark Brown, all about the stuff that goes on inside your head. Over the next two weeks we鈥檙e going back to an occasional series that we鈥檝e been taking you to throughout the pandemic: it's Isolation Diaries. It鈥檚 been a long time since we鈥檝e heard from Kate Monaghan and her family as they鈥檝e been isolating together throughout the pandemic so I鈥檓 really looking forward to finding out what鈥檚 been happening over the last few months. The next voice you鈥檒l hear is that of a very unwell sounding Kate Monaghan.聽music-Featuring upcoming clips.聽Kate-Hello and welcome to Isolation Diaries, a brutally honest account of my experiences as a disabled person with a disabled family in a global pandemic. I鈥檝e kept my recording equipment in my pocket over the past few months to document my emotions as lockdown rules are constantly changing. Getting everything off my chest has helped me and so I鈥檓 hoping it might even help you. If you鈥檝e been on our journey since the beginning when the UK first went into lockdown in March 2020 welcome back. The rollercoaster hasn鈥檛 ended just yet. But if you鈥檙e a new listener, welcome. I鈥檓 Kate Monaghan. I鈥檓 a 30-year-old woman with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome which means I have chronic pain and all my joints are a bit rubbish really. Also I have just turned 38; it was my birthday on Monday. So, yes happy birthday to me, but it does mean I鈥檓 now 38, edging ever close to 40. Oh God, that鈥檚 scary to say. I live with my chocolate and crime drama loving wife Holly, who had a kidney transplant 12 years ago and so is immunocompromised. Holly鈥檚 condition means that as a family we鈥檝e been strictly following every government rule to the letter, including months of isolation. The worry of Holly catching COVID has been an underlying anxiety now for almost two years.聽
Holly and I have two beautiful daughters, five-year-old Scout and two-year-old Gracie, who we adopted just over a year ago now. Gracie has dwarfism so has needs we are learning to navigate. And Scout enjoyed time away from school over the Christmas holidays maybe a little too much. So, let鈥檚 start with some good news: I鈥檓 finally getting my long-awaited hysterectomy.
[Music] Right, it鈥檚 the day before, the night before in fact, D-Day, or O-Day I should say. Holly is putting the kids to bed and I am getting everything ready. I鈥檓 expecting to be in for like two or three nights I reckon. I have got enough pyjamas, knickers 鈥� although knickers I probably won鈥檛 need that many knickers because they鈥檒l give me those granny pants, won鈥檛 they 鈥� t-shirts, dressing gown. That鈥檚 probably about it in terms of what I鈥檓 going to wear, because I鈥檓 not going to wear any trousers, I鈥檓 not going to wear anything that hurts my tummy. I鈥檓 actually looking forward to it. My stomach has been so bad for so long now. I鈥檝e got really bad endometriosis and adenomyosis. Endometriosis is where the womb lining sort of goes around different places and sticks to places, like your bowel or your bladder, in my case bowel and bladder. And adenomyosis is in the muscle of the womb; bits of the endometrial tissue kind of go in there and invade and then make big deposits basically. It鈥檚 really painful and I鈥檝e had it for years and years and years now and I cannot wait to get this womb out because it has done nothing for me. It has literally been all trouble and no benefit. And it looks like it鈥檚 finally going to go ahead. I鈥檓 all ready to rock and roll. Fingers crossed all goes well. Please let鈥檚 go well and get this womb of doom out of my body.
[Crying] I鈥檓 just recording this because I just had a phone call Wednesday afternoon, I was supposed to be going in for surgery on Friday, and they鈥檝e just cancelled it. The bowel surgeon has gone off sick. And I know it鈥檚 not their fault but it鈥檚 just so devastating when you feel so poorly for so long, then you鈥檙e looking forward to something being done about it and then it鈥檚 cancelled. You have to isolate for two weeks before, put your life on hold, and then I鈥檝e been planning for the kids to be looked after, we鈥檝e got all these plans in place about how we were going to cope and you psyche yourself up completely. It鈥檚 just absolutely crap. I鈥檝e been limping towards the surgery date and feeling on the edge of collapse but kind of holding it together, because it鈥檚 okay, I can collapse on Friday. It鈥檚 not the surgeon鈥檚 fault they鈥檝e got ill. It鈥檚 not COVID because the woman who phoned me who sorts out the lists she said that they鈥檙e hoping that he鈥檒l be back next week. So, I just have to pull myself together and go and pick Scout up now. And it's stress on her because we鈥檝e been talking about it, getting her ready for it, just saying this is what鈥檚 happening. And now she鈥檒l be thoroughly confused about why it鈥檚 not. It鈥檚 like a flipping rollercoaster. And with COVID already you have to isolate and worry about visitors coming and all of this stuff and then can鈥檛 put it together.聽聽
[Baby crying] Okay today, in fact right now I should be in surgery, shouldn鈥檛 I, Gracie. But instead I am back on mum duty because the operation has not happened. And as you know that鈥檚 been pretty hard on me. So, instead I鈥檝e taken Gracie to a farm, which has been lovely, but now she鈥檚 a bit miserable. She鈥檚 okay, she just needs a nap. She just keeps getting cold after cold after cold. And also I think there鈥檚 something about kids with dwarfism and their ears because she鈥檚 always pulling at her ears. I don鈥檛 know if anyone knows about it that could help?gracie-Mama.Kate-Yes my darling? Oh your shoe! Your shoe! Have you got a shoe? Thank you. I felt a bit sad yesterday because to add insult to injury they phoned me up and said I had to go straight in for another menopause injection, because my menopause injections had literally run out the week I was having the operation. So, they were like it's fine because you'll have your womb out so therefore you鈥檒l be in the menopause anyway. So, I had to go and have that injection which, if anyone who鈥檚 had one before knows, it鈥檚 a really tough one because it鈥檚 a big old needle into the muscle of your bum. It really hurts and it makes you feel just a bit sore and cruddy afterwards is my experience. I was really worried about going in, well I still am because it is going to happen, about the kids would manage. But also there was a very small part of me that was looking forward to a really good like bit of time on my own and just have a bit of peace and quiet, some TV shows that I haven鈥檛 been able to watch. And instead this is my reality now.聽
[Music] So, I was just thinking 鈥� oh, mind your tea 鈥� so Scout goes back to school tomorrow.聽Holly-Yah.Kate-What was that noise?聽Holly-It was a kind of excited noise but then it went off into a kind of oh, because this holiday has been so good.聽Holly-Yeah. But yeah, her uniform is all laid out. She鈥檚 excited and nervous I鈥檇 say.Kate-She keeps telling us she鈥檚 scared. And you can tell she鈥檚 feeling a bit anxious about it because she鈥檚 been waking up in the night more and stuff like that. But I think she鈥檚 desperate to see her little friends.聽
I was looking at the way COVID numbers are going. Yeah I know, which is pretty scary now. And obviously we鈥檙e not doing bubbles anymore. So, how are we going to handle it with COVID in Scout鈥檚 class? Because I was thinking, I think we need to talk to her head teacher and say we need to know if there鈥檚 a COVID case in her class because鈥olly-What, you don鈥檛 think they鈥檇 tell us?Kate-No. Why would they? Because there are no bubbles anymore.聽Holly-But I mean, we鈥檙e a close-knit community, I think we鈥檇 find out, wouldn鈥檛 we?Kate-Yeah, but not everybody tells you. And what if one of the parents has it? We鈥檇 still have to keep Scout off in that case.聽Holly-Yeah, or keep Scout socially distanced from that child, but then that鈥檚 really unfair on that child, isn鈥檛 it?Kate-Yeah, that鈥檚 not going to happen.聽Holly-It鈥檚 not very fair. That kid would feel like a leper. Yeah, we probably should mention it to her head I guess.Kate-Because as pleased as I am that her bubble isn鈥檛 going to burst anymore, because getting to the end of last term it was just popping every two seconds it felt like.聽Holly-Yeah, well we took her out of school at the end, didn鈥檛 we?Kate-We did take her out of school, yeah.Holly-We were so worried about not being able to go on holiday.Kate-And my operation!Holly-Oh yeah, and your operation. [Laughs]Kate-That was the main reason we kept her off.聽Holly-Yeah.聽Kate-We need to know. We need to have that information so that we can keep you safe. And if she gets that close to COVID we need to know so that we can... When is it going to go? What do you really think now is going to happen?聽
Holly-I don鈥檛 think it is going to go. I think we鈥檒l just keep on having vaccinations.聽Kate-And the vaccinations will improve I guess, won鈥檛 they?Holly-Kids will have vaccinations. I guess being a vulnerable person we will continue to wear masks in certain places.Kate-I think what I will do then is tomorrow I鈥檒l either email or phone the head teacher and say this is our situation, please can you keep us informed.聽Holly-Yeah. Wouldn鈥檛 it be weird if COVID just sticks around and we鈥檒l be saying to our kids in ten years鈥� time oh, before 2020 COVID didn鈥檛 exist, we didn鈥檛 need to wear masks anywhere. It would be like when you talk about 9/11 and you say, gosh do you remember when we didn鈥檛 have to go through all those security things and take your shoes off and stuff like that, but a more extreme version.聽Kate-For planes, yeah I know.聽Holly-Yeah, it would be like that kind of weird, do you remember when you didn鈥檛 have to have a vaccination?聽Kate-Do you remember when we didn鈥檛 have to lockdown over winter and not ever go out of the house?聽Holly-Yeah, exactly.聽Kate-[Music and crying] So, the operation has happened, which is amazing. But a certain somebody does not like the fact that she can鈥檛 be with me. No, you鈥檙e not very happy about it, are you? You want to be jumping all over mama. So, the operation in the end was okay. Everything went to plan, which is amazing. I was the only person having an operation that day by my surgeons. It happened quickly which was really great. And then because of my disability my mum said that I needed her to be with me in the ward, which to be honest was a massive relief, because she said I would need somebody to help me go to the toilet, I would need somebody to help me mobilise more than a sort of average person. So, that was really helpful because it meant that she was able to be with me all the time.聽
[Baby crying] Oh Gracie, mama just has to stay in bed. I鈥檓 sorry. And Holly鈥檚 had the kids which was great, so she was able to focus on the kids with her mum. But Gracie has not been happy about the whole thing. She鈥檚 finding it really difficult that I haven鈥檛 been able to be with her or play with her or any of that kind of thing. But yeah, just really, really glad it鈥檚 done now. I鈥檓 feeling really grateful.聽gracie-Mama.Kate-Mama will come and play soon. Bring a toy to mama.聽
[Music] I just found out that my sister and my niece鈥� [Drilling noise] The projector has fallen down. Did we tell you we鈥檝e got a projector in our bedroom because we haven鈥檛 been to the cinema for, like, 17 years, well since COVID so however long that is, which feels like 17 years. So, we had a projector that was just sitting around and doing nothing and we had the bright idea to put a projector screen in our bedroom. And now it鈥檚 like a cinema in our bedroom and it鈥檚 the best thing we did. Anyway a little insight for you. Sorry, just changing direction here鈥olly-Hired hand.Kate-Hired hand, yeah鈥hat my sister and niece have both got COVID; my sister who is double jabbed. My niece was okay. She has had a fever and a cough. But my sister has been really poorly, we found out last night. But what鈥檚 really worried me is one of Holly鈥檚 kidney friends, who is very similar to Holly in that she has had a kidney transplant, she鈥檚 had a baby鈥olly-Also she had the same name.Kate-Yeah, also called Holly鈥he got COVID and she鈥檚 been very poorly. She鈥檚 been in hospital for at least two weeks.Holly-Yeah, poor thing. She tried to manage it at home, as you would do, but ended up being in hospital. She鈥檚 doing okay. Because obviously she鈥檚 got a compromised immune system, like me, and it鈥檚 just very, very slow.聽Kate-And my mum, I just sometimes think my parents aren鈥檛 taking it seriously, like they were taking it seriously and then now they鈥檙e not taking it seriously or not being as precautionary as I would enjoy them to be. I hope my sister being ill has maybe shown my parents that even though someone鈥檚 double jabbed and very healthy they can still get very poorly from it.Holly-Yeah, maybe that鈥檚 that what do you call it, they need like a kick up the arse, literally.Kate-I think they鈥檙e just fed up of it, like we all are.聽Holly-Aren鈥檛 we all?Kate-I was working yesterday. And the operation has gone really well, I feel really great, but the one thing that is not making me feel great is the hot flushes. They are absolutely kicking my bum.聽Holly-Wow, we went swiftly from your parents and COVID there to hot flushes.Kate-No, you鈥檒l see my link.Holly-If I could look inside your head.Kate-You鈥檒l see why I鈥檓 saying it. The really difficult thing is the hot flushes whilst wearing a mask. It鈥檚 awful, but I鈥檓 still going to wear a mask because we have to and we have to keep you safe and me safe. I think I鈥檇 get quite poorly with it because to have COVID plus chronic pain would be awful, wouldn鈥檛 it?Holly-Plus you鈥檝e just had surgery.Kate-Plus major surgery, yeah. Not great. It鈥檚 quite scary how close it鈥檚 got now with Beth and Hope, not that they live physically close, but in terms of our family. And I just feel so grateful that they鈥檝e had their vaccine, or Beth鈥檚 had the vaccine, because she clearly would have been really poorly with it had she not had the vaccine. We just need to keep staying safe, Holly.Holly-Yeah, we do.Kate-[Music] Holly, don鈥檛 go to sleep.Holly-Why?Kate-Because I have got a question.聽Holly-Hmm?Kate-You know they鈥檝e taken out my womb and ovaries and鈥olly-Cervix.Kate-鈥ervix, where does my vagina go?Holly-Oh, I don鈥檛 know.Kate-So, there鈥檚 a hole, which is my vagina, and it goes up.Holly-Have they sewed it up?Kate-Yeah, is it like a road to nowhere?聽Holly-Just goes up until it bumps into your bowel, your stomach or鈥 don鈥檛 know. That鈥檚 a really good question. I might have to look it up: hysterectomy diagram. There鈥檚 quite a lot to remove, isn鈥檛 it?Kate-You need to audio describe it now, Holly, because I鈥檓 too tired and in pain.聽Holly-Okay, well it鈥檚 called, this diagram, it says total hysterectomy. And it鈥檚 got a diagram of the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix and vagina. And you can have a total hysterectomy, a radical hysterectomy or 鈥� what does that one say? It鈥檚 got writing over it 鈥� total hysterectomy with Salpingo鈥hat the hell?Kate-Oophorectomy, that鈥檚 what I had.Holly-Yeah, because the total hysterectomy is just the womb.Kate-But I had this, which took all the ovary and fallopian tubes and everything away.聽Holly-On the diagram it鈥檚 got little cut-out lines, but it鈥檚 missing the scissors, so you can see where it鈥檚 cut out.聽Kate-So, what happens now at the top of my vagina? Because I was lying here thinking why aren鈥檛 I bleeding very much.聽Holly-They鈥檝e sewn it up.Kate-Because last time I had all this endometriosis surgery I鈥檝e had terrible bleeding.聽Holly-I鈥檓 googling something else now: hysterectomy, do they sew the vagina up.Kate-None of this is giving me any answers. Ugh, that鈥檚 not a picture I wanted to see.Holly-That is a whole video of surgery.聽Kate-Wow, do you think it鈥檚 mine? I wish they鈥檇 filmed mine.聽Holly-Well, you got pictures, didn鈥檛 you, of your actual bits?Kate-I did.Holly-Because our friend works in the hospital.聽Kate-Yeah, so she got to dissect my uterus. The vagina is just like an empty husk of a thing now.Holly-Maybe just don鈥檛 give it too much thought. Just enjoy the fact there鈥檚 no bleeding. Just don鈥檛 think about it.Kate-I鈥檓 not sure that鈥檚 how therapy works though.聽Holly-Wow, you鈥檇 know, Kate.Kate-I would know, it鈥檚 true. And the last thing she says to do is just don鈥檛 think about it. But then we haven鈥檛 really talked a lot about vaginas in therapy, so.聽Holly-I bet you have.聽Kate-Oh yeah, actually I have, it鈥檚 true, of course I have. Because last time do you remember how much bleeding I had?Holly-Yeah, weren鈥檛 you wearing nappies on those?Kate-Yeah. But hey, we鈥檙e a week out from surgery now. And we went out for tea.聽Holly-Yeah, that鈥檚 the first time you鈥檇 probably left the house, isn鈥檛 it?Kate-Yeah.聽Holly-Successful.聽Kate-It was but there were just too many people around.聽Holly-It was really disconcerting because none of the waitresses were wearing masks. I didn鈥檛 expect that. It was quite loud and every time they bent down near me to ask me a question I was like leaning back. It was kind of weird. I don鈥檛 know. And I would have felt weird to put my mask on at that point, do you know what I mean?Kate-Yeah, it felt rude.聽Holly-Yeah, it felt rude. It shouldn鈥檛 feel rude.Kate-Yeah, I just feel almost like I want to go back into my house and not come out of it.聽
[Music] Okay, so it鈥檚 3:13am, in the morning, I鈥檓 recording this really quietly because Holly is asleep next to me. But I just woke up and I checked my email, I just looked at my phone, and I had an email. I had a PCR yesterday for work basically so that I could do some work this week, go somewhere to do some work, and they鈥檝e been routinely PCRing us every week. And I鈥檝e been feeling completely fine, and I鈥檝e just got the result back and it says that I鈥檝e got COVID. Yeah, I鈥檓 really shocked and really worried. I can鈥檛 quite believe it. I don鈥檛 think I have any symptoms really apart from a very slight cold. And then last night I was really, really tired so I went to sleep at 9 o鈥檆lock, went straight off, which is very unusual for me but that was the main thing. I feel so stressed. I feel like I should move out of my bed already because Holly鈥檚 lying next to me. I don鈥檛 know what we鈥檙e going to do. I don鈥檛 quite know how to tell her. It鈥檚 like everything we鈥檝e been worrying about for the last two years has suddenly happened.聽
[Music] So, yes, I鈥檝e literally just told Holly that I do indeed have COVID. I鈥檝e recorded the aftermath. We still have to sort out what to do next, what we鈥檙e going to do with the kids. Holly鈥檚 got to do a test. I don鈥檛 even want to think about what we鈥檒l do if that鈥檚 positive. And I鈥檓 still trying to digest what this actually means for me too. Am I going to start to get really poorly? I don鈥檛 know. I guess we鈥檒l soon find out. So, yeah this rollercoaster is about to go up a notch, and I鈥檒l report it all to you next week. Anyway how are you all doing? I know so many people with COVID at the moment. The pandemic really doesn鈥檛 feel like it鈥檚 over at all, does it? So, if you鈥檝e been in my boat and had to break the news to a worried loved one that you have COVID or even had to warn them that you might have passed the virus onto them feel free to get in touch. I might read some out to Holly to help her see lots of us are in the same boat. So, thank you in advance for helping me out.聽
Please do email my producer Amy, that鈥檚 amy.elizabeth@bbc.co.uk. How has having COVID impacted you as someone with a disability? Here at Ouch we鈥檙e always very interested to hear your experiences. And remember to keep up to date with what were reporting on for you. Find us on Twitter @bbcouch and Instagram @bbc_ouch. So, until next week keep all your fingers and toes crossed for me that Holly鈥檚 okay, I鈥檓 okay and that the kids are okay. Only time will tell.聽
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