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My first ever interview was for employment
as an apprentice fitter鈥檚 job with Harland and
Wolff in 1944 at the age of 12. I started as a message
boy in the engine works front gatehouse at fourteen
shillings a week.
The interview was with a Scotsman, Mr Walter Brown
who was the works manager. I later found Mr Brown to
be a man with a wonderful memory. Many years after he
retired another message boy called Jackie McClean said
hello to him on the Newtownards Road. Mr Brown had failing
sight but recognised the voice and told Jackie that
he should always come over and say hello as Mr Brown
could not see very well.
The Gatemen were Harry Law, Charlie Hughes and Robert
Dixon (Nightshift). They had the power to send you home
if you were late in or late back from lunch. One of
them was responsible to record the managers and foreman鈥檚
time as they left the works at night. Two message boys
were made to stay behind to help, one marked the time
against their names on a slate, the other wrote them
onto a piece of paper as the names were called out by
the gateman.
This took about fifteen minutes after the boys should
have finished and they were given a sixpence each. I
remember once a boy volunteering to stay behind to get
the sixpence, as he wanted to go to the pictures and
it cost sixpence. After all had gone he said to the
gateman there was no one left. The gateman told him
to hold on and he went into the office of the gatehouse.
On his return, he said to the boys that he had no money
and gave them half an apple each. The one boy was so
angry he threw the half apple at the foreman. The next
morning the boy had his board taken off him and was
sent home.
I
started my Apprenticeship in 1949 and at the start of
my second year, I was sent to the Abercorn works which
had the nickname of Boys Town. I was sent to work with
a fitter called Billy Swan assembling valves.
Other apprentices were working on their own, some riveting
lids onto grating for the water service, tapping holes
and pressing brackets for gas lamps. There was a slinger
in the engine works nicknamed the major. He sold cigarettes
and chocolates. He would give the apprentices whatever
they wanted and allowed them to pay at the end of the
week.
As the apprentices were moved to different departments
every six months the major would always try and find
out the date of the moves and no one would tell him.
The result of this was he would come in on a Monday
to collect the money owed to him but the apprentices
had been moved and he lost his money.
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I was then transferred to the shipyards fitting department.
It was certainly a change from working in the engine
works exposed to all the elements to a workshop with
heat. I remember when we went on board a ship in the
mornings before starting time, men were standing around
the riveter鈥檚 coke fires on the deck. The first
man in would have made a large tin of tea and this was
passed around each person to take a drink. No one complained
about no sugar as they were glad just to get a warm
drink or even just the chance of warming their hands
on the warm tin.
The main means of transport were bicycles and tramcars.
The tramcars were always packed and passengers even
stood on the back bumper rail and held onto the back
of the tram. A lot of the trams were open topped or
opened at the front and when it snowed you would have
seen some young men and apprentices stand at the side
of the road and pelt the tramcars with snowballs as
the tramcars passed.
I worked in the shipyard until I retired in January
1989. On retiring, I was a Safety Officer for the offices
and engineering works. The years between 1953 and 1957,
I was a marine engineer in the Merchant Navy finishing
fourth engineer.
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Billy Hall - May '07 I am a third generation "Yard" boy,
served my apprenticeship from 1980-84, worked in the
engine works for 3 more years until getting let go in
87. My father and grandfather both worked in the yard
as Joiners. I remember my grandfather talking about
watching the "Titanic" leave the shipyard,
he watched it from cavehill.
My dad remebers the day the yard got bombed during
the war, he tells me how they towed a battle ship that
was in for repairs out of the docks to defend Belfast
I remember scale medels of all the ships in the hallway
of the training center, I am not sure what happened
to those, they have to be worth a fortune.
I was on e-bay a while back and came across something
that sent me into shock.... On e-bay for sale were "ORIGINAL"
wooden blocks from the engine works floor...the price,
a whopping $235 U.S. I wish I had pound for every one
of those blocks I threw in the bin, we were always tripping
over them.... Damn....
I live in Canada now, my dad is still alive and living
here too
Billy Hall
Bill McNaughten - Mar '07
It was good to be reminded again of good days in the
Yard. I started there as an office boy in MAY 1948 after
leaving school at 14. I was in the main office block
and eventually worked on the Mail Van. At 16 I started
to learn the trade of Sheetmetalworking, and after many
years I was made Foreman in the Sheetmetal Shop. Having
worked in HARLAND'S for 42 wears I was forced to retire
because of ill-health. My greatest claim to fame in
the YARD is that I (when I was at the bench) made both
sets of letters for the big cranes!.
I hae looked at my work many times over the years and
thought of "the good old days". Thanks for the memories.
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B Jackson - Feb '07 My Great Grandfather
work on the Titanic. He allmost went on it to the U.S.A.
Barbara McMullan -Sep '06
Hi Josh,
Just read you article It brought back lots of memories,
of both Dad & Ricky. Those Shipyard days were great
ones. I know Dad told some stories of the war years.
My husband was also a shipyard worker, before coming
to Australia,so i'm still hearing ship yard stories
!!!
Hope you are well
Best regards Barbara.
Monica Sweeney - Sep '06
A very good friend of mine, from sweden, an engeneer
specialist for large cranesworked at Harland & Wolfe
around 1972/3 approx. We lost touch, anyone who might
know of him, his name is Bo Melin he worked there on
several contracts from Sweden at different intervals.
Would like to get in touch.
Jim Elder - April '06
My father worked in harlands all his life as a shipwright.
his name was billy elder. he died of asbestosis in the
early 80s.
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